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  From: Jamie Zawinski <jwz@jwz.org>
  To  : <apmd-list@worldvisions.ca>
  Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:00:07 -0700

apmd 3.0b6 and Thinkpad 770ED

Avery Pennarun wrote:
>
> I've never had anyone complain to me that it doesn't work.  Any laptop
> that didn't do that wouldn't be complying with the APM standard
> properly.

Guys, I hate to tell you this, but apmd just doesn't work at all on a
Thinkpad 770ED.

It has quite a few horrible behaviors, including: making the kernel
pause for 30 seconds when I close the lid and I'm attached to a dock;
refusing to go into suspend mode when I close the lid or do the magic
keyboard gesture; similarly refusing to go into hibernate mode; not
waking up when I open the lid until I've closed the lid and opened it
again; and at least a few other confusing acts of randomness.

I believe that all of these problems go away when I kill apmd, but
at least some problems have persisted, and only go away when I kill
apmd, reboot, and don't start it.

I've had this machine for about six months, and have never had any
apm-related problems in that whole time, until I started using apmd 
last week.

I would be happy to spend some time to help you debug this, but you're
going to have to talk me through it, because I know nothing about this
stuff (and there is, as far as I can tell, no documentation.)

I don't know where to begin -- aside from "don't run apmd."

If the problem is really that the machine is not complying with the APM
standard (which I doubt, but which is possible) then let's isolate the
nature of the problem, rather than just guessing, and either come up
with a workaround, or clearly understand and document *why* one can't
run apmd on Thinkpads.

-- 
Jamie Zawinski             jwz@jwz.org             http://www.jwz.org/